---
Q25
All right, in particular that a young fella named Matthew Lanegan was shot last night at sea on his boat the Caravel and ---
A
Yeah I heard about that ---
Q26
- and that his boat was then set on - appears to have been set on fire. Now firstly, is there anything you wish to tell us about that incident, or those incidents?
A
I donât know anything about them, no.
Q27
Okay, what were you up to yesterday?
A
What, all day?
Q28
Yes.
A
Well, I did an oil change on the four wheel drive in the morning, then I took the drum of old oil out to the tip. Um, had lunch in the bistro at the pub. In the afternoon, I went to a clearing sale with dad up at the Rosslynâs, came back, dropped in at the pub and did a roster -
Q29
What time would you have returned to the pub?
A
Oh about four thirty.
Q30
And I should just ask for the sake of clarity, when you say âthe pubâ,
youâre referring to the family business, the - the Normans Woe Hotel
in Dauphin.
A
Yes thatâs right.
Q31
Okay, so four thirty youâre doing a roster. Now can I ask you, you
know a man named Michael John McVean?
A
Yes I do.
Q32
And how do you know him?
A
He works for dad, does odd jobs around the place. Heâs kind of, I
suppose youâd say, just a general employee of the family business.
Q33
So by that do you mean the pub or the boat or the other ventures you
mentioned just before?
A
Well, all of them. Whatever needs doing.
Q34
Do you know where he was yesterday?
A
Ah, I think he was taking a load of seafood up to Melbourne to the
markets for us.
Q35
Why would he be doing that? Arenât you on a contract with a buyer
who collects it all for you?
A
Yeah we are, but now and then you get a special order, maybe a
restaurant or that, or maybe you catch something unusual and you
want to run it up there fresh. Itâs good for relations, you know?
Q36
Who did he go to Melbourne with?
A
As far as I know he went on his own.
Q37
Are you sure about that? Youâre not aware of anyone who was travelling
with him?
A
No Iâm not.
Q38
Well Mr Murchison, one of the things we check on when thereâs
a death like this, a suspicious death, is we look at the deceasedâs
phone records, you understand?
A
Yeah, that makes sense.
Q39
And here, weâve had a look at Mr Laneganâs phone calls, and he talks
to you three times, at er, let me look at this, at 12:31 pm, 12:36pm and
5:12pm yesterday afternoon. Now can you think of any reason why
you two would be talking yesterday afternoon?
A
No. No I canât. Unless he was ordering something from the pub or -
Q40
No, I donât think youâre following me, Mr Murchison. Those calls
went through phone towersyou understand that mobile calls can
be located by the nearest mobile phone tower ---
A
Yeah yeah.
Q41
- and those towers were at Werribee, for the first two calls, and then
Geelong for the later one. He wasnât in Dauphin, I suggest to you.
A
Oh right, yep.
Q42
Can you see -
A
- I donât -
Q43
- how that makes it -
A
Iâm not sure -
Q44
- look a lot like you were talking to him while he travelled?
A
Yes I can, but I have no recollection of doing that.
Q45
You donât know how that could be?
A
No I donât. Could I -
Q46
You must agree that it looks a lot li -
A
- make a phone call?
Q47
Well, who do you want to call? I mean, er, Iâve offered you your right
to call a lawyer, but you canât, for operational reasons I canât have you
calling anyone else right now you understand?
A
Yep. I do. Iâll call me lawyer thanks.
Q48
All right, weâll just pause the recorder there for a minute. Mr
Murchison do you agree that the time by my watch is 10:33pm?
A
Yep.
Q49
All right.
INTERVIEW SUSPENDED.
DETECTIVE SERGEANT NEIL ROBERTSON:
Q50
Now Toby do you agree the time by my watch is 10:56pm?
A
Yes I do.
Q51
All right. Just before we get underway again, Iâll just recap where
weâve got to.
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