his canteloupe contorts himself with mirth
   To read the blatant bulletins of the rulers of the earth?â
âand ending:
   âItâs Mr Dooley
   Mr Dooley
   The wisest wight our country ever knew!
   âPoor Europe ambles
   like sheep to shamblesâ
   Sighs Mr Dooley-ooley-ooley-ooo.â
or some other cause altogether, the impression remains that I
regard both sides with equal indifference.
CARR : And you donât?
JOYCE : Only as an artist. As an artist, naturally I attach no importance to the swings and roundabout of political history. But I come here not as an artist but as James A. Joyce. I am an Irishman. The proudest boast of an Irishman is â I paid back my way â¦
CARR : So it is money.
JOYCE : A couple of pounds would be welcome â certainly, but it is to repay a debt that I have come. Not long ago, after many years of self-reliance and hardship during which my work had been neglected and reviled even to the point of being burned by a bigoted Dublin printer, there being no other kind of printer available in Dublin, I received £100 from the Civil List at the discretion of the Prime Minister.
CARR : The Prime Minister â?
JOYCE : Mr Asquith.
CARR : I am perfectly well aware who the Prime Minister
is
â I am the representative of His Majestyâs Government in Zurich.
JOYCE : The Prime Minister is Mr Lloyd George, but at that time it was Mr Asquith.
CARR : Oh yes.
JOYCE : I do not at this moment possess £100, nor was it the intention that I would repay the debt in kind. However I mentioned the English Players. By the fortune of war, Zurich has become the theatrical centre of Europe. Here culture is the continuation of war by other means â Italian opera against French painting â German music against Russian ballet â but nothing from England. Night after night, actors totter about the raked stages of this alpine renaissance, speaking in every tongue but one â the tongue of Shakespeare â of Sheridan â of Wilde ⦠The English Players intend to mount a repertoire of masterpieces that will show the Swiss who leads the world in dramatic art.
CARR : Gilbert and Sullivan â by God!
GWEN : And also Mr Joyceâs own play
Exiles
which so far, unfortunately â
JOYCE : Thatâs quite by the way â
CARR :
Patience!
JOYCE : Exactly. First things first.
CARR :
Trial by Jury! Pirates of Penzance!
JOYCE : We intend to begin with that quintessential English jewel,
The Importance of Being Earnest
.
CARR (
Pause
): I donât know it. But Iâve heard of it and I donât like it. It is a play written by an Irish â (
Glances at
GWENDOLEN ) Gomorrahist â Now look here, Janice, I may as well tell you, His Majestyâs Government â
JOYCE : I have come to ask you to play the leading role.
CARR : What?
JOYCE : We would be honoured and grateful.
CARR : What on earth makes you think that I am qualified to play the leading role in
The Importance of Being Earnest?
GWEN : It was my suggestion, Henry. You were a wonderful Goneril at Eton.
CARR : Yes, I know, but â
JOYCE : We are short of a good actor to play the lead â heâs an articulate and witty English gentleman â
CARR : Ernest?
JOYCE : Not Ernest â the other one.
CARR (
Tempted
): No â no â I absolutely â
JOYCE : Aristocratic â romantic â epigrammatic â heâs a young swell.
CARR : A swell�
JOYCE : He says things like, I may occasionally be a little overdressed but I make up for it by being immensely overeducated. That gives you the general idea of him.
CARR: How many changes of costume?
JOYCE : Two complete outfits.
CARR : Town or country?
JOYCE : First one then the other.
CARR : Indoors or out?
JOYCE : Both.
CARR : Summer or winter?
JOYCE : Summer but not too hot.
CARR : Not raining?
JOYCE : Not a cloud