to offer me, oh, you don’t want to hear it, you may want to hear it, I don’t want to tell it; how could it, do you know, how could it
interest
you? Because it’s like you’re walking through a part of town, and you say, “You see that house? I used to live there.” “Really.” What can it
mean
to them? Nothing. It means something to
you
, you see, as it should.
(Pause)
But the other person, they feel lonely. Or I wanted to say, “It’s not much, but it’s
mine
.”
(Pause)
BOB : I know.
DEENY : I know you know.
(Pause)
“It’s not much” … eh? “But it’s …” And what
could
it mean to you? You know? As the phrase is “anyway,” because it truly couldn’t. It’s nothing. It’s … a bit of
buying. Ordering
, mainly, accountancy … “Accountancy”? “Accounting” … Bookkeeping … I keep track of some things. There really is a bit of buying. Everyone thinks that they’ve got good taste. Everyone thinks “Everyone thinks that they’ve got good taste, but I
have
got good taste …”
(Pause)
But I
have
got good taste. And I like it, and they like me, and there you have it. What a success story. How’s
your
life?
BOB : As you see.
DEENY : I was thinking of tribes that
mutilate
themselves, and it occurred to me, that, perhaps, when they
do
it,they …
(Pause)
they get
pleasure
from it. Those tribes that … tattoo their faces, or they stretch their lips, you know, or
necks
, or the terrible things they do to their sexual, their sexual equipment; but I thought, if you know that this is terrible, as you do, and know you are frightened, which is to say, you
are
frightened, and you know that
it is the community
that forces you, then might you not feel, might you not feel, as they
did
it, you see … : “Yes. Yes. I surrender.” And you
die
. You undergo the pain of, the pain of, the pain of giving birth to yourself. And that
sorrow of years …
BOB : … yes I understand.
DEENY : … that sorrow of years. Is condensed, do you see, into a
ceremony
. And then it is over.
(Long pause)
Looking at the “old thing.” Looking at
regret
. What is it we hope to gain by looking at it? Do we think it
raises
us …? No. Do you know, it’s not important.
BOB : What is important?
(Pause)
DEENY : What is important?
(Pause)
You know, couldn’t you say of
anything
that it is folly? Except passion. While you’re feeling it, and afterward,
especially
of that. That it is folly.
(Pause)
That everything is folly.
BOB : Yes. You could say that.
DEENY : People with sorrow in their eyes …
BOB : … yes …
DEENY : … you know … people you wouldn’t be
drawn
to when you were young.
BOB : No.
DEENY : You wouldn’t see them.
BOB : No.
DEENY : But they would see
you
. Maybe they’d be
attracted
to you.
(Pause)
Some older person. Looking down.
BOB : Yes, looking down.
DEENY : But could not
have
them.
BOB : Who could not?
DEENY : The older person.
BOB : Have what?
DEENY : Have that younger love.
BOB : Have
passion …
DEENY : No.
BOB : Because …?
DEENY : Well,
you
know why then,
don’t
you. Because it had passed. Well. And the
things
we did. And things we said. To other lovers. And the
jokes
, the private jokes, you know, and
poignancies;
and all the revenge we foreswore,
and that we could not have
. Always, and
turning
, don’t we? Toward death—Do you think? Do you think so?
(Pause)
And, you know, and the things we’d given up. When you elect it’s consolation to grow up. And it
is
consolation.
But So What?
And the things we kept
till we grew sick of them
. The treasured pivots of our
world
—until …
(Pause)
BOB : “Until one day …”
DEENY :
Oh
yes.
(Pause)
I never knew what you wanted.
(Pause)
I thought I knew.
(Pause)
I thought that I knew.
(Pause) Finally … (Pause)
And I said.
(Pause)
They say there’s going to be a frost.
BOB : Well, then, I am sure that there is.
DEENY : I am sure that there is, too.
(Pause) Despite
the